Title: Mr. Nesbitt
Post by: Andrew Yates on April 21, 2006, 07:53:24 PM
Post by: Andrew Yates on April 21, 2006, 07:53:24 PM
I appreciate your insight Brian but I would rather you not get involved in these matters.
Title: Mr. Nesbitt
Post by: mwnesbitt90 on April 21, 2006, 09:46:44 PM
Post by: mwnesbitt90 on April 21, 2006, 09:46:44 PM
Were sir then do you suggest we discuss it?!?!
Title: Mr. Nesbitt
Post by: mwnesbitt90 on April 21, 2006, 10:19:04 PM
Post by: mwnesbitt90 on April 21, 2006, 10:19:04 PM
Sirs with due repect i dont find it fair to talk about my future without alowing me to defend myself.
Title: Mr. Nesbitt
Post by: mwnesbitt90 on April 21, 2006, 10:39:37 PM
Post by: mwnesbitt90 on April 21, 2006, 10:39:37 PM
Sir were may i ask are these dicussions taking place??
Title: Mr. Nesbitt
Post by: Andrew Yates on April 20, 2006, 10:33:43 PM
Post by: Andrew Yates on April 20, 2006, 10:33:43 PM
We will discuss this problem here to refrain from interfering in missions and storylines.
Title: Mr. Nesbitt
Post by: Andrew Yates on April 21, 2006, 01:08:35 AM
Post by: Andrew Yates on April 21, 2006, 01:08:35 AM
Mr. Nesbitt's conduct twards other officers, superiors at that, is unacceptable and will not be tolerated. Also I and I am sure that other memebers of the HC do not approve of Nesbitt holding Admirality. Infact there is no documentation or proof of him even taking the Bridge Commanders test.
Title: Mr. Nesbitt
Post by: Richard Ransom on April 21, 2006, 08:52:23 PM
Post by: Richard Ransom on April 21, 2006, 08:52:23 PM
Andrew, can you please answer my question as you are H.C.
thank you Brain, I liked your points as well
thank you Brain, I liked your points as well
Title: Mr. Nesbitt
Post by: on April 21, 2006, 09:42:53 PM
Post by: on April 21, 2006, 09:42:53 PM
You went from unassigned to Fleet Captain quickly at my first seeing you here. At the time, there was indeed no bridge commanders test availible. The course for command was completed by PM. That is very much valid for your ship CO position and that rank, but that is not your current post or rank.
You have a misconception of the point of this. There is not a 'badgering' as you put it, of you, for no reason. It appears these days, the automatic assumption is that there cannot be a reason for a concern to be brought up that is negative about them.
It is felt that you are not best for a position such as Division XO, and perhaps the rank of Admiral. Those who have that opinion of have given it, and there is no decision or anything of that sort about it at the moment. Your past does not shine well on you, when you speak of respect. I have seen you to show respect after the fact, to attempt to reconcile.
This topic is being discussed where it needs to be, which is not here.
You have a misconception of the point of this. There is not a 'badgering' as you put it, of you, for no reason. It appears these days, the automatic assumption is that there cannot be a reason for a concern to be brought up that is negative about them.
It is felt that you are not best for a position such as Division XO, and perhaps the rank of Admiral. Those who have that opinion of have given it, and there is no decision or anything of that sort about it at the moment. Your past does not shine well on you, when you speak of respect. I have seen you to show respect after the fact, to attempt to reconcile.
This topic is being discussed where it needs to be, which is not here.
Title: Mr. Nesbitt
Post by: mwnesbitt90 on April 21, 2006, 09:55:33 PM
Post by: mwnesbitt90 on April 21, 2006, 09:55:33 PM
Yes,sir
occ: what should i do next no-one has sent me a copy of the plan for this storyline.
occ: what should i do next no-one has sent me a copy of the plan for this storyline.
Title: Mr. Nesbitt
Post by: mwnesbitt90 on April 21, 2006, 10:11:16 PM
Post by: mwnesbitt90 on April 21, 2006, 10:11:16 PM
Admiral yates sir i respect you sir but how do i keep me job i you guys are not willing to help me be ready for what i need to do. the this for me is i hear something different from every person in the high command and even ransom. its just all so confusing
Title: Mr. Nesbitt
Post by: on April 21, 2006, 10:25:58 PM
Post by: on April 21, 2006, 10:25:58 PM
This is not an 'offense defense' situation. It looks like you have flown through the ranks without earning anything, by following Richard Ransom where he is in command. Richard apparently promoted you in large incriments, quickly and/or rashly. That is not on your shoulders, it is regrettable that such a mistake was made involving you, but it does not dissmiss that you are not suited for the Division XO/Admiral positioning.
This is all a screw up. Simply said as it can be.
This is all a screw up. Simply said as it can be.
Title: Mr. Nesbitt
Post by: Andrew Yates on April 21, 2006, 10:37:02 PM
Post by: Andrew Yates on April 21, 2006, 10:37:02 PM
I posted this topic here due to the lack of a better place to discuss this. I did not want to continue to disturb the storylines.
Title: Mr. Nesbitt
Post by: on April 22, 2006, 12:53:46 AM
Post by: on April 22, 2006, 12:53:46 AM
Mr. Nesbitt has been removed from rank and position, while he maintains that he 'resigned' prior to this, making it void. That is all good and well, but should he choose to take an active position, he will be of the rank Crewman 3rd Class.
You will probally want to begin searching for a new XO.
This topic is over.
You will probally want to begin searching for a new XO.
This topic is over.
Title: Mr. Nesbitt
Post by: Richard Ransom on April 20, 2006, 10:45:48 PM
Post by: Richard Ransom on April 20, 2006, 10:45:48 PM
can some one tell what the god green earth is going on Iam completely lost on what is happening. Andrew do explain if you can be so kind.
Title: Mr. Nesbitt
Post by: Richard Ransom on April 21, 2006, 01:29:53 AM
Post by: Richard Ransom on April 21, 2006, 01:29:53 AM
as you all Know I had Nessbitt in my old Division of Windsor and from what I remember he took the Bridge commander test though Pm from what I have been told. I gave him the rank of Admiral. I was under the impression as Division Commanding Officer I could give him that Rank?, If Iam wrong please post the rules on this.
Title: Mr. Nesbitt
Post by: mwnesbitt90 on April 21, 2006, 09:32:01 PM
Post by: mwnesbitt90 on April 21, 2006, 09:32:01 PM
Sirs seen as though this issue seems to have to do with my "dissreguard" for higher ranking officers there is nothing further from the truth, I have the utmost repect for all higher ranking officers and would never intetionaly ignore or disreguard the wishes of a high command officer however i have completed every command course mandated by Admiral Hobson from the time i was initially broguht into a higher command rank, so gentalmen please do NOT insult my qualifilcations to become what MY commanding officer see's fit i do NOT appreciate being badgered ever since i have joined expansionfleet I have repeatedly been attacted by every higher ranking officer in the fleet how would you all react if you we my shoes!?!?! Also if its that big of a deal i will just retire and keep my current rank!!
Title: Mr. Nesbitt
Post by: Andrew Yates on April 21, 2006, 09:54:52 PM
Post by: Andrew Yates on April 21, 2006, 09:54:52 PM
The rank of Admiral is given to the most devoted and to the most accomplished memebers. As far as I have seen you have not been as devoted and accomplished as to recive such a title. And do nopt make the mistake of that you are being singled out and picked on and that you were or are the only only one hearing from the High Command. When I was a rookie here I too had been caught up in such matters very similar to these. It is now two years later almost three and I have devoted much time and accomplished much to be worthy to hold such a title. I think you need much more time and experiance to hold a position such as Division XO and you need more devotion and accomplishments to be promoted to the rank of Admiral.
Title: Mr. Nesbitt
Post by: mwnesbitt90 on April 21, 2006, 10:00:14 PM
Post by: mwnesbitt90 on April 21, 2006, 10:00:14 PM
NOt here back in frontier....?
? No one has let me know what the plan is!
Also sir if you wish me to make a better XO send me a message tell me what i need to improve or do to be the best XO possible.
? No one has let me know what the plan is!Also sir if you wish me to make a better XO send me a message tell me what i need to improve or do to be the best XO possible.
Title: Mr. Nesbitt
Post by: on April 21, 2006, 10:02:18 PM
Post by: on April 21, 2006, 10:02:18 PM
I will send just that PM.
Other than that, this isn't a storyline. Its real, something I think you probally knew.....
Other than that, this isn't a storyline. Its real, something I think you probally knew.....
Title: Mr. Nesbitt
Post by: on April 21, 2006, 10:14:06 PM
Post by: on April 21, 2006, 10:14:06 PM
I have sent you a PM that might make sense with you becoming eventually 'ready' for a large command position.
Hopefully it resolves..well, everything.
Hopefully it resolves..well, everything.
Title: Mr. Nesbitt
Post by: mwnesbitt90 on April 21, 2006, 10:28:35 PM
Post by: mwnesbitt90 on April 21, 2006, 10:28:35 PM
well i dont intend to be punished for someone elses mistakes! I would like to request Flag Admiral Vorak be present at these procedings!
Title: Mr. Nesbitt
Post by: Richard Ransom on April 21, 2006, 11:22:57 PM
Post by: Richard Ransom on April 21, 2006, 11:22:57 PM
I have read the Points from all Involved.
I see the points from all Party Involved as you all know in H.C Iam a Rookie CO but the one thing I know which is part of my down fall I try to give pepole Second Chances and it a downfall from me I have just been informed Mr.Nessbitt has Resigned. and I would like a Member of the H.C please keep me informed of your decision with Mr.Nessbitt.
I see the points from all Party Involved as you all know in H.C Iam a Rookie CO but the one thing I know which is part of my down fall I try to give pepole Second Chances and it a downfall from me I have just been informed Mr.Nessbitt has Resigned. and I would like a Member of the H.C please keep me informed of your decision with Mr.Nessbitt.
Title: Mr. Nesbitt
Post by: James Madison on April 21, 2006, 12:22:17 AM
Post by: James Madison on April 21, 2006, 12:22:17 AM
From what i can tell Mr. Nesbitt has an issue with accepting anything from an officer that is not his direct CO.
Title: Mr. Nesbitt
Post by: Brian Higgins on April 21, 2006, 06:07:45 AM
Post by: Brian Higgins on April 21, 2006, 06:07:45 AM
Ransom, I dont think that Nesbitt once accepted orders from anyone, nor do I think hes even READY! to consider himself an admiral, He isnt acting the way he should, so he should be stripped of power. Then tossed into a very cold cold cold planet. But thats just me, but Nesbitt has no need to be an admiral, I dont care who gave him the test, hes totally immature. Im more mature then he is most of the time.
Ill go for now
P.S. BTW, Ransom, Admiral status is earned not given. Took me awhile to figure that now.
Ill go for now
P.S. BTW, Ransom, Admiral status is earned not given. Took me awhile to figure that now.
Title: Mr. Nesbitt
Post by: on April 21, 2006, 09:01:28 PM
Post by: on April 21, 2006, 09:01:28 PM
The situation is largely as Andrew pointed out in an above post. Some members of HC do not agree with Mr. Nesbitt holding a rank of admirality, and what is more, the position of Division XO.
Title: Mr. Nesbitt
Post by: on April 21, 2006, 09:52:26 PM
Post by: on April 21, 2006, 09:52:26 PM
We do not need to discuss anything. It is already being discussed elsewhere, in a closed topic.
You know of the thing, so you continue as XO or resign, continuing awaiting word of something done, or nothing done.
You know of the thing, so you continue as XO or resign, continuing awaiting word of something done, or nothing done.
Title: Mr. Nesbitt
Post by: on April 21, 2006, 09:56:18 PM
Post by: on April 21, 2006, 09:56:18 PM
......this isn't a storyline.....
Title: Mr. Nesbitt
Post by: Andrew Yates on April 21, 2006, 10:06:12 PM
Post by: Andrew Yates on April 21, 2006, 10:06:12 PM
Nesbitt, this is not a mtter of you not being a good XO, its a matter of you not being entitled to hold the rank and infact BE an Division XO. You are far too incompetant and inexperianced. But it has come to my attention that this is not entirly your fualt. it is also Ricjards for giving you the position. I know he is a Rookie CO and I know he is not fully sure of his peramiters but know I am confident he is now aware.
Title: Mr. Nesbitt
Post by: Andrew Yates on April 21, 2006, 10:14:25 PM
Post by: Andrew Yates on April 21, 2006, 10:14:25 PM
Well, for now the High Command is going to discuss this conflict privatly so that we may determine an appropriat coarse of actions. we will post here when we come to our conclusion.
Title: Mr. Nesbitt
Post by: on April 21, 2006, 10:31:41 PM
Post by: on April 21, 2006, 10:31:41 PM
It would be much better for you to not get fired up. This is not a 'proceding', this is not a court case or trial, or hearing. Vorak is certainly involved in this discussion. It is being discussed elsewhere, and as I said before, not here. I am unsure as to why this thread is here, it is not a town-hall meeting.
Title: Mr. Nesbitt
Post by: on April 21, 2006, 10:40:27 PM
Post by: on April 21, 2006, 10:40:27 PM
Understandable
I think this discussion is over. There is nothing to be decided by talking here. It has only caused that repetitive conflict/debate chain posting which I, personally, am weary of.
I think this discussion is over. There is nothing to be decided by talking here. It has only caused that repetitive conflict/debate chain posting which I, personally, am weary of.
Title: Mr. Nesbitt
Post by: on April 21, 2006, 12:46:45 AM
Post by: on April 21, 2006, 12:46:45 AM
| Quote |
| To be granted the rank of Commodore or higher, one must have the approval of an existing officer of the Admiralty. This is subject to scrutiny by the High Command. |
Title: Mr. Nesbitt
Post by: mwnesbitt90 on April 21, 2006, 09:56:09 PM
Post by: mwnesbitt90 on April 21, 2006, 09:56:09 PM
And as XO i'm aloud to post on windsor right???
Title: Mr. Nesbitt
Post by: mwnesbitt90 on April 21, 2006, 10:07:57 PM
Post by: mwnesbitt90 on April 21, 2006, 10:07:57 PM
Sir actualy i did not know i understand that this hearing and my being investigated is real i just thought something might be planed as far as ransoms disappearence
Title: Mr. Nesbitt
Post by: on April 22, 2006, 12:56:06 AM
Post by: on April 22, 2006, 12:56:06 AM
Topic Closed.