Open discussion

[Valory]

Believe me I know we are safe no where.  I have learned that lesson a few years ago.  I do try to live everyday, I have seen too much death around me not to know how lucky I am.  But that doesnt take away the fear.

[Trodin]

The American super power is gone the day a 2 aircrafts destroyed the WTC and bombed the pentagon.

Now a year later we are on the border of war with Iraq and why?
Because bush cant keep this guns in this pocked.
Leave Saddam alone before he kills people that don't need to die because of America.
I come from Holland and I can insure that our country people don't want to have this war.
Don't attack Iraq unless you want to end of Europe and Russia and America on your hands mr bush.  

[Strider]

Smarter...? Nah...just....hmmmmm....more of a weasel....looked for loopholes to everything...if it wasnt there, he made it up. so....Smarter? Never.

[Vorak]

"Not being an american, you can't understand". No I indeed don't understand the ways of hatred and rage that too many americans do. I understand they are afraid, and that they resent sept 11, but hatred and rage to destroy countries and innocent people over it, no that goes beyond my understanding indeed. Luckily there are also americans that have actually the insight that war will not solve this, it will only make things worse.

And I agree with Winterspoon and Valory: Clinton WAS a better president, to my opinion.  It's not because he cheated on his wife, that he was not able to rule his country.  At least he ruled his country in a CIVILIZED way, not in the ways of the DEVIL FILLED WITH HATRED.

I know that America is an uppermost Christian land, so I ask them: is it the will of God to revenge people?  To kill a 1000 innocent people just to get one man?  Is it in the bible that killing is the right thing to do?
"He who is without sins, throw the first stone," Jesus once said to a woman who was about to be stoned to death for a sin, "and though I am without sin, I will not throw a stone at you either."
And all I see is Christians throwing stones... who do you think I respect more, them, or their God?  Jesus made a point and see how many forgot the meaning of it...

[Tomas Goransson]

It is Sweden. And it is not hogwash... Sweden would not "weed out" the terrorists. Maybee the ones in Sweden but certainly not outside Sweden. How do I know that? Becouse I am from Seeden. And we have a alliance-free politc, that means that we will not attack other countryes to get terrorists. You may not belive me, but who better knows then a actuall swede? Or, do you say that I do not know how my own country should react?

(Edited by Tomas Goransson at 7:26 pm on Sep. 13, 2002)

[Tomas Goransson]

Touché to David http://expansionfleet.sparks.priorweb.be/ikonboard/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'> The only country that actually would dream about doing something like thios is USA. Not even Russia would do it if they had money. So mouch I can tell.

(Edited by Tomas Goransson at 7:50 pm on Sep. 13, 2002)

[Tomas Goransson]

And what weapons, uh? The man wants to beat his father, that is why he do this.

[Dalen Winterspoon]

Strider, for a Christian, YOU DO NOT HONOUR the Precepts of your Religion.
I'm very disappointed about you.
You support a War that will destroy a mass of innocents, will make eternal damages to many countries, will split the remaining harmony between people and nations for a long time.
You have an 'Apocalyps Book' in your Bible. You like it? Yes, it seems. You are enjoying the Destruction. You hate Creation and LifeCare. Question :

ARE YOU A CHRISTIAN?

If you really WERE, you would do everything to PERSUADE People around you to maintain the Balance between Death and Birth, Destruction and Construction... and so on... To say shortly : to PRESERVE LIFE.

IF this War between USA anf some of the Arabian People will increase, the World will be touched in totally. The Biological Weapon is a weapon that makes no choice... How many deaths do you want, o so-called Christian?

Finally, when I watch seriously Islamism, Jewism and Christianism, I'm proud to be CELT! And nothing else!

[Strider]

Why do you persist in insulting me?

I admit right here right now to the entire board. I insulted your religion, i'm sorry. I tried to apologize before, but you ignored me...twice. If it is over that, what is the point of continueing it...other than making us hate each other? There isn't. If it isn't the reason, please say why....honestly, as I have, before the whole board.

[Strider]

Ok, but that doesn't explain why you continue to ignore me and won't accept my apology. Nor does it directly answer why you continue to insult me. I wish to know please.

[Strider]

Ok, well I can understand the point of view. Violence shouldn't always be fought with violence. However my belief is that this is one of those exceptions....however unfortionate.

[Valory]

I don't know what to say.  I believe there is no possible way to make peace with Iraq.  I'm not sayin we should attack, but how can you make peace with a phsyco.  He uses his own people as body sheilds.  America went into Afg. searching for Usama and his followers.  We did not go there to kill innocents, we tried to help with food drops, as did other countries I'm sure.  We are not all totally filled with rage, but you must understand americans to understand their viewpoint, just as we must understand other countries to understand theirs.  Most of us here are from diff. countries, have grown up in diff. societies, and customs.  We are fighting over our diff. viewpoints becuase we don't understand where everyone is coming from, and cannot except nor agree with each others opinions in some cases.  

[Geert de heer]

Bush reminds my of a song of the james bond movies

Gladys Knight: Licence to kill

[Tomas Goransson]

Ok, he moight have lisense. But he have lisense from his father only. (Not his real dad, just a more simplyfied situation) The rest of the block are disagreeing.

[Shakira]

I can't believe a year has gone already since that day. Seriously, a year and still people are scared. I'm not saying 'hey be cool', but living with fear is not the way you should live your life. Learn from your experiences and from others' (life is too short to learn from yours only, it is said), move on. I know it's way easier saying it than actually doing it, but not trying to is (in my opinion) the worst thing you could do. I heard it's better to get lost in the sea than never get on the ship. Not that I want you to be lost in the sea, but the intention of that phrase is to remark the importance of trying.

Now, that's all I had to say. Peace out!